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at the top 25 prospects and will get a listing of the organizations who have improved their stock and which teams have slipped, we do want everyone to be able to see the listing of the Top 25 Prospects at the midseason.
So here it is. And let us know what you think of the list by leaving comments.
Top 25 Prospects
1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
3. Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins
11. Freddie Freeman, 1b, Braves
12. Jarrod Parker, rhp, Diamondbacks
13. Neftali Feliz, rhp, Rangers
14. Alcides Escobar, ss, Brewers
15. Yonder Alonso, 1b, Reds
16. Wade Davis, rhp, Rays
17. Dominic Brown, of, Phillies
18. Desmond Jennings, of, Rays
19. Jason Castro, c, Astros
20. Tim Beckham, ss, Rays
21. Brett Wallace, 3b, Cardinals
22. Matt LaPorta, 1b/of, Indians
23. Michael Taylor, of, Phillies
24. Kyle Drabek, rhp, Phillies
25. Michael Saunders, of, Mariners
The Next 25 (listed alphabetically, if you couldn’t tell before): Tim Alderson, rhp, Giants; Pedro Alvarez, 3b, Pirates; Lars Anderson, 1b, Red Sox; Jake Arrieta, rhp, Orioles; Jhoulys Chacin, rhp, Rockies; Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b, Indians; Christian Friedrich, lhp, Rockies; Jeremy Hellickson, rhp, Rays; Aaron Hicks, of, Twins; Brad Holt, rhp, Mets; Eric Hosmer, 1b, Royals; Austin Jackson, of, Yankees; Casey Kelly, rhp/ss, Red Sox; Jason Knapp, rhp, Phillies; Mat Latos, rhp, Padres; Jordan Lyles, rhp, Astros; Jennry Mejia, rhp, Mets; Matt Moore, lhp, Rays; Mike Moustakas, 3b, Royals; Derek Norris, c, Nationals; Martin Perez, lhp, Rangers; Ben Revere, of, Twins; Esmil Rogers, rhp, Rockies; Josh Vitters, 3b, Cubs; Nick Weglarz, of, Indians.
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How come Zach Stewart shows up in the subscriber version but not in this list?
Posted by Brandon | July 9, 2009 at 11:24 am | ShortcutNice catch. The subscriber story was posted to the RSS feed a little too early as the last minute touches were being put onto the next 25. Stewart was on an earlier version of the next 25, but was just edged out in the final version that’s also going into the magazine.
Posted by J.J. Cooper | July 9, 2009 at 11:35 am | Shortcutjust wondering if Danny Duffy came close??
Posted by chris crown | July 9, 2009 at 11:43 am | ShortcutFernando Martinez misses for eligibility reasons?
Posted by Sam | July 9, 2009 at 11:46 am | ShortcutIf we went to 100 Duffy would be in strong consideration; he didn’t get the support for the top 25. We also have a 26-50 range (in alphabetical order) for the subscriber list, Duffy didn’t quite get there. Love the best baseball product out of Lompoc in years, and it should be said of the scouts we talked to for this list, nobody thought the pitching in the minors was highly differentiated.
Posted by John Manuel | July 9, 2009 at 11:48 am | ShortcutWhy did you decide to omit the players currently in the Majors, yet are still considered to be prospects? (Tommy Hanson, for one.)
Posted by J.P. | July 9, 2009 at 11:49 am | ShortcutWould Brad Lincoln and Rudy Owens make the top 100?
Posted by Andy | July 9, 2009 at 11:49 am | ShortcutHas Brandon Snyder put himself into contention for Top 100 contention?
Posted by Mitch | July 9, 2009 at 11:54 am | ShortcutWas Jay Jackson pondered? He’s had an excellent year and with two plus pitches, bodes well for a shot at reaching the bigs. Ryno keeps talking about his 4 quality pitches, which bodes well for his potential as a starter.
Also, if this list was to 100, would Cashner or Starlin Castro have made it on the back end?
Posted by Tony | July 9, 2009 at 11:54 am | ShortcutI don’t understand how a great prospect like Mat Latos is left off the top 25. Derrick Norris is also puzzling, he is only in Low A ball but the numbers are monsterous.
Posted by Robert | July 9, 2009 at 11:59 am | ShortcutJ.P.
It just makes things much simpler and in some ways more accurate to have a hard and fast rule. We started putting together this list a week ago. During the past week, preseason No. 2 prospect David Price has gone from having 50.2 innings pitched to 52. If that had been just one inning different that would have meant he would have gone from a prospect to a non-prospect over the span of the past week. It’s just simpler to have a rule that anyone in the majors when we are putting together this list no longer qualifies, especially since they will very likely not qualify for the 2010 Top 100 Prospects anyway.
Posted by J.J. Cooper | July 9, 2009 at 12:14 pm | ShortcutGood list overall. I was surprised that Freddie Freeman and Tim Beckham both ranked ahead of Josh Vitters, though.
Posted by Luke Gude | July 9, 2009 at 12:18 pm | ShortcutHow close were Adrian Cardenas and Kyle Blanks to making this list?
Posted by hagan | July 9, 2009 at 12:23 pm | ShortcutI thought Neftali Feliz and Alcides Escobar should be 10 and 11 and Logan Morrisan and Freddie Freeman should be 13 and 14 .
Posted by Jeremy | July 9, 2009 at 12:23 pm | ShortcutIs the only thing holding Jesus Montero back from being #1 the position uncertainty in the future? Also, is another Yankees prospect, Trenton starter, Zach McAlliser in the top 100? I think he is certainly deserving. He dominated in High A ball last season, and is dominating in the Eastern League for the Trenton Thunder. It seems as though he is one of those prospects that fly under the radar until he makes his pro debut, since no one talks about him the way they talk about fellow Yankees prospects, Austin Jackson, Jesus Montero and Austin Romine.
Posted by Brandon R | July 9, 2009 at 12:28 pm | ShortcutWhat White Sox prospects would have been in consideration or have a shot at top 100? Flowers, Hudson, Viciedo, Danks??
Posted by aj | July 9, 2009 at 12:28 pm | ShortcutGreat list as always guys! I love Heyward at the top so I am soaking this list up for all it’s worth…until next month when Strasburg signs.
Posted by Joe LeCates | July 9, 2009 at 12:30 pm | ShortcutMy take on some of these questions: Lincoln and Owens would be under consideration, just hard to think of it in a vacuum, and since neither of those guys were strong considerations for the Top 25 (at least not for me), I didn’t ask the scouts I talked to about either of them. Latos is quite close, he was in the discussion in the 21-25 range; for me his makeup is a big question mark, has been since he was an amateur. Norris’ defensive stats are actually terrible; he leads the SAL in passed balls and errors by a C. He has average defensive tools but doesn’t focus on defense. He’s a catcher; he needs to focus on defense. It’s at the top of the profile for every team at that position. He also is a 26-50 guy, and closer to 26 than 50, but the defensive questions for me are substantial. Just talked to another scout about that very point today. On the Cubs, Jackson would be more 51-100 for me. Cashner over Castro, though I’m impressed with Castro’s season. Jackson versus Cashner would be a great debate; I’d take Jackson because for me, Cashner’s a reliever, not a starter. Jim Callis and I are podcasting on this today; if you want us to address a question in the podcast, shoot me an email in the next half-hour, podcast@baseballamerica.com.
Posted by John Manuel | July 9, 2009 at 12:32 pm | ShortcutPretty good list.. found it interesting that there was only 7 pitchers. Is that just because pitchers are harder to project?
I’m not sure I understand the reasoning putting Wade Davis above Latos and Drabek but I guess they’re all so close
Posted by Brett | July 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm | ShortcutHow close was Hector Rondon? He is the only name I’m surprised isn’t mentioned. And was the list completed before his 6 IP of no-hit ball in AAA yesterday?
Posted by Daveh | July 9, 2009 at 12:34 pm | ShortcutHow is Clay Buckholtz not there?
Posted by Paul | July 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm | ShortcutI don’t understand what people see in Jason Castro. I’ve seen him play several dozen times in Stanford and before he was promoted out of the CAL, and I just don’t see it.
Posted by Dan | July 9, 2009 at 12:47 pm | ShortcutWondering how close Kasey Kiker came? Seems to be the forgotten man in the Rangers organization, but he is having a pretty dominating year at AA. He started the Tex. League All Star Game on the mound. I know he has had a little bit of trouble when it comes to hit batters and he might not light up the radar gun like some of the other pitchers listed, but I would put his numbers against almost anyone’s on that list. His numbers far exceed those of Drabek, the player he is compared to the most because they were drafted in such close proximity to each other.
Posted by Ryan | July 9, 2009 at 12:48 pm | ShortcutAndrew Lambo and Todd Frazier still make the top 100?
Posted by Adam | July 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm | ShortcutLatos has more makeup questions than Kyle Drabek?
Posted by Tom | July 9, 2009 at 1:06 pm | ShortcutWhat about Chris Heisey? His 1st half was redonk…
Posted by bin | July 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm | ShortcutTo Paul — Buchholz has more than 50 innings pitched in the Majors, and therefore is no longer a prospect.
Posted by J.P. | July 9, 2009 at 1:12 pm | ShortcutI know he is far away but where would You rank Wilmer Flores
Posted by Charles | July 9, 2009 at 1:29 pm | ShortcutI would assume the only reason Michael Taylor is down at 23 is because he wasnt in the preseason top 100? Would that be correct?
Posted by Adam | July 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm | ShortcutDoes the Orioles trio of young arms remind you of the A’s Mulder, Hudson and Zito?
Posted by Ben | July 9, 2009 at 1:43 pm | ShortcutI think it’s absolutely disgusting that the nyy can sign who ever they want in the international market with out regulation…what is this, three years in a row now that they’ve signed the best international catching prospect? Gross. Where’s the justice?
Posted by John | July 9, 2009 at 1:55 pm | ShortcutJust curious what Bud Norris (AAA Round Rock) from making the cut. He leads the PCL in ERA and Ks.
Posted by carter | July 9, 2009 at 1:56 pm | ShortcutWas lhp Trevor Reckling with the Angels considered for the list.
Posted by Rin Jones | July 9, 2009 at 2:10 pm | ShortcutNo love from Austin Romine? He’s been raking and is the real catcher of the future, not Montero.
Posted by Kyle | July 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm | ShortcutGuess we’re going to need a chat . . . I will do my best to get to a lot of these questions today/tonight. Off to record the podcast.
Posted by John Manuel | July 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm | ShortcutRomine has a .316 OBP and nearly 4 times as many SO as BB. He’s a solid prospect I suppose, but not even close to top 25 material.
I’m glad to see Heyward take is much deserved spot at #1 and I love the aggressive ranking of Freeman. Assuming his power develops as expected, he should be a great all around 1B some day.
Posted by Alex | July 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm | ShortcutI got the chance to see Steve Susdorf at Clearwater recently, and he is a man among boys in the FSL. Was he considered? (.370 BA – .421 since being promoted to Clearwater)
Posted by Marc | July 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm | ShortcutHow could Montero be rated 3rd when there are serious issues about his catching ability? Shouldn’t all aspects of a players game figure into these ratings?
Posted by Taslim Abdani | July 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm | ShortcutTom … When you talk about Kyle Drabek’s “makeup issues,” what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about the public intoxication charge from his junior year of high school? He’s been a model citizen in his three years (!) as a pro, no off-field incidents, no on-field meltdowns. The Phils were so impressed with the work ethic he displayed during his recuperation from Tommy John surgery that they rewarded him with a start in a big league spring training game this year. A lot of teams passed on him in ‘06 because of “makeup issues.” It’s well past the time for them to admit they made a mistake.
Posted by Tom | July 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm | ShortcutWho’s the better RF/1B combo: Heyward and Freeman or Stanton and Morrison?
Posted by Nate | July 9, 2009 at 3:48 pm | ShortcutHow close was Brett Lawrie to the top 50?
Posted by pedrosolis@gmail.com | July 9, 2009 at 4:01 pm | Shortcutmontero’s bat is that special.
Posted by Scott | July 9, 2009 at 4:28 pm | ShortcutHow close was AnVil?
Posted by Josh G | July 9, 2009 at 5:04 pm | ShortcutUhh, Hello?
My name is Thomas Neal and you forgot about me.
And has my buddy Angel Villalona really fallen that far in 6 weeks?
Posted by Thomas Neal | July 9, 2009 at 5:05 pm | Shortcutso i take it this list isn’t based upon 1st half performances? ie: hicks, pedro, etc who haven’t done much of anything yet…for various reasons.
Posted by fondy | July 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm | ShortcutHow close was Manuel Banuelos of the Yankees to making the list his numbers are nice!
Posted by Jeremy | July 9, 2009 at 5:29 pm | ShortcutWere there any other Astro prospects who were close? Maybe a Ross Seaton, Jon Gaston (your MiLb XBH leader…), or Polin Trinidad?
Posted by Andrew | July 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm | ShortcutJust curious where Jemile Weeks and Dayan Viciedo fall at this point.
Posted by Chris Mal | July 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm | ShortcutEnough already with discussing all of these eastern players. Thomas Neal (see above) has been killing it at San Jose, and he brings up a great point.
Does Angel Villalona really drop that far that quick? He’s still only 18!
And even though he doesn’t qualify after his big league time last year, John Bowker has been killing this year at Triple-A Fresno .347/.448/.614 17hr 63rbi and 10sb!
Posted by Eric | July 9, 2009 at 5:58 pm | ShortcutVillalona ranked as the No. 44 prospect in the game entering the season. He’s still a good prospect, but he’s not one of the 25 best prospects in baseball.
Posted by Ben Badler | July 9, 2009 at 6:26 pm | ShortcutHow did Wilmer Flores not make the cut for prospects 26-50?
Posted by Jason | July 9, 2009 at 6:30 pm | ShortcutJosh Thole? Kid is RAKING in AA and is only 22! I know…I should just be happy with the Mets prospects that are in the list but it’s getting harder and harder to grasp for something positive right now…
Posted by tom p | July 9, 2009 at 6:46 pm | ShortcutJesus Montero could hit in the majors right this second…too bad is a horrid catcher.
Posted by Rich James | July 9, 2009 at 7:15 pm | ShortcutTravis Wood and Peter Bourjos???
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 7:26 pm | ShortcutThese two seem to really fly under the BA radar!
Jason Castro ahead of Derek Norris?!? Preposterous! Norris will probably switch positions, but in terms of offensive potential, I’m sorry, there should be no debate–Norris is way ahead–he should be in hi-A ball or even AA right now. The Nats don’t know what they’re doing!
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 7:31 pm | ShortcutHave you guys heard of Alex Liddi?!?!?
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 7:35 pm | Shortcut20-year old raking in hi-A, a triple-crown candidate with tons of experience already doesn’t crack the top-50??? I know he plays in the rarified air of the CAL league, but come on!
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Posted by Baseball America’s Midseason Top 25 Prospects « Generation Third | July 9, 2009 at 7:40 pm | ShortcutSo Josh Vitters is now considered a lesser prospect than he was entering the season, even though he’s having a HUGE season and has been promoted??? How do you guys figure? I don’t understand his ranking at this time?!?!?
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 7:48 pm | ShortcutI don’t think you’re following, MJ. He was 51 entering the year. We moved him into the 26-50 range; he was strongly considered for the back of the 25. He also has shown a bit too much aggressiveness with that low BB rate.
Posted by John Manuel | July 9, 2009 at 7:53 pm | ShortcutI believe Freeman will be a star in a year or two. Can you update us on his numbers for this year so far? I assume he is still at Myrtle Beach?
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Posted by Baseball America Top 25 MidSeason Prospect List | July 9, 2009 at 8:00 pm | ShortcutMJ,
Yes, of course we’ve heard of Alex Liddi. We’d heard of Liddi back in 2006, although I’m assuming you threw all those ?!?! in there to signify mock outrage. We ran our list by multiple scouts inside the game and not one of them believed that Liddi was one of the top 25 prospects in the game right now. Now that doesn’t mean he may not eventually climb to that point, but right now, he’s not there in our opinion.
Posted by J.J. Cooper | July 9, 2009 at 8:07 pm | ShortcutWhat can be said for tennesse smokies pitcher casey coleman? what is his ceiling? and do you see him breaking the top 100 next year?
Posted by andrew b | July 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm | ShortcutI’m sort of pining for the days when Alan Matthews started off the podcasts “Hello baseball’s brightest fans”, and also last summer when the comment section was down. (Faux) “You mean my 27 year old slow-pitch buddy didn’t make the Top 25?!?!?!?”
Posted by Joe LeCates | July 9, 2009 at 8:25 pm | ShortcutThomas Neal was right, he belongs on this list. Why doesn’t anybody talk about what a great prospect he is?? The guy is a stud in San Jose.
Posted by dwright | July 9, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Shortcutdude, I can’t wait to see San Jose play down in Lake Elsinore later this season. What a loaded roster!
Posted by dwright | July 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm | Shortcutbetter arm, not necessarily better prospect???
Posted by fondy | July 9, 2009 at 8:55 pm | Shortcutwilkin de la rosa or jenrry mejia
Callis had Vitters ranked 37, Lingo 46, and Manuel 42 in the ‘09 top-50 according to the Prospect Handbook…on this list you guys just created, he’s #49. That looks like regression to me…just saying…
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 8:59 pm | ShortcutOh, btw, Travis Wood just struck out the #10 prospect on this list, Logan Morrison, 3 times tonight…just saying…
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 9:01 pm | ShortcutUgh..I agree with Joe LeCates. Comments should go back to subscribers only.
Posted by Dave | July 9, 2009 at 9:35 pm | ShortcutYou didn’t notice that list was in alphabetical order, MJ? Appreciate the comments, but wow, you’ve been shot down by editors three times already in one day. Just sayin’.
Posted by John Manuel | July 9, 2009 at 9:45 pm | ShortcutI do see the ABC order now, thanks…but “shot down?” No one at BA can defend Travis Wood and Alex Liddi not even being ranked in their team’s respective top-30 list according to the ‘09 handbook. And you guys keep saying Bourjos has to prove himself at higher levels, his bat still has questions, and his pitch recognition is a concern…his numbers this year, and for his career, are far better than a lot of these guys on the list. He’s been proving himself since the day he was drafted, and still is just 22 at AA. I know it’s a tough list to come up with, and I love the discussions that follow…keep up the banter–I’ll go round-for-round w/anyone!
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 9:59 pm | ShortcutI like the aggressive ranking of Freeman, and the exclusion of Alvarez. How far has he slipped? With the move to first base now inevitable, does Brad Lincoln have a chance to surpass him as the organizational #1?
Posted by Jeff | July 9, 2009 at 10:00 pm | ShortcutThe truth is, Liddi did make the first cut of the Mariners’ Top 30 I put together. Boy, do I ever regret omitting him now. What happened was, Seattle Rule 5′d Jose Lugo and then traded for Mike Carp, Maikel Cleto and Ezequiel Carrera, a series of transactions that pushed Liddi just outside the 30. At any rate, here is the previously unavailable Liddi capsule I wrote last fall:
Posted by Matt Eddy | July 9, 2009 at 10:16 pm | ShortcutAny thoughts on Wilmer Flores? Was he close to making the Top 50?
Posted by Jason | July 9, 2009 at 10:23 pm | ShortcutZach McAllister? I can’t figure out why he’s never been regarded as a top prospect (#6 on the NYY list, but behind Betances and Brackman), when all he’s ever done is deal, get guys out, and win at every level. He’s now dominating AA at 21. Surely, he’ll crack the top-50 by season’s end?
Posted by MJ | July 9, 2009 at 10:24 pm | ShortcutI would rank Smoak down 2 spots after Posey, but other than that, this is a great list
Posted by Kevin | July 9, 2009 at 10:42 pm | ShortcutHow can Eric Young Jr.’s season not get him in the top fifty? His skill set seems quite unique. What’s his upside…?
Posted by Jack H. | July 9, 2009 at 11:11 pm | ShortcutMJ, regarding Vitters, the difference between 42 (average of those three) and 49 is negligible. It’s entirely possible he’s the same prospect he was before, perhaps even slightly improved, but that’s comparing him against himself. Against others, perhaps they’ve improved markedly and he’s just taken incremental steps. There isn’t a whole lot of difference in 20 or 30 spots apart on these lists, outside of the top 10-15, in my opinion.
Posted by David de la Fuente | July 9, 2009 at 11:15 pm | ShortcutI loved Freeman going into the year, but you gave him a very low preseason rank of #87. He has most certainly not done enough yet this year to warrant a jump from #87 to #11 (70 games 6HR .447 SLG 34 RBI – decent, solid numbers, especially for his age, but not jump off the page numbers). Is this mid-season rank just you coming to the realization that he was ranked too low to begin the year?
Posted by Aaron | July 10, 2009 at 12:02 am | ShortcutWas Adam Moore close to making the list or is his catching ability still in question? Seems like hitting 300 with power and good makeup would get him in the top 50 at least.
Posted by JimO | July 10, 2009 at 12:41 am | ShortcutClay Buckholz is the best minor league picture in baseball and soon might be the best in the Big Leagues. Remember he still holds a no hitter in the bigs, suffered some setbacks and is dominatiing for the Triple A BoSox. Have you ever seen this kid pitch? amazing. I have seen many but this kid is better already than what is in the Bigs.
Posted by Wheel | July 10, 2009 at 3:37 am | ShortcutNo A’s prospects in the top 50? How close were Adrian Cardenas, Chris Carter, Jemile Weeks and Michael Ynoa to making the list?
Posted by Daniel | July 10, 2009 at 4:52 am | ShortcutJosh Vitters, Mat Latos and Casey Kelly did not make the top 25? I think at least Vitters should have been there over Jason Castro or Michael Saunders.
Posted by Rob S. | July 10, 2009 at 7:34 am | ShortcutWow – what a puzzling list. I receive the daily prospect report, and right next to Mat Latos’ line (from Thursday’s gem) is the comment – “In running for Minor League Player of the Year?”
And he doesn’t even crack the top 25? I get that different people have different opinions at BA, but come on, Neftali Feliz isn’t even starting anymore.
Posted by Chris | July 10, 2009 at 8:06 am | ShortcutWas Chris Heisey, Reds (AAA/AA) even considered?
Posted by Walstib | July 10, 2009 at 8:29 am | ShortcutYes, he was. Just not a consensus that he’s a big league regular; some scouts are skeptical. Would make my Top 100, not quite top 50 material yet for me.
Posted by John Manuel | July 10, 2009 at 8:55 am | ShortcutRe: Latos, he’s obviously a guy, we just thought there were 25 better when makeup, future ceiling and likelihood to reach that ceiling are all factored in. The makeup is a big, big issue for me personally and it came up in the meeting.
Posted by John Manuel | July 10, 2009 at 8:57 am | ShortcutBuchholz is not eligible.
Posted by John Manuel | July 10, 2009 at 8:58 am | ShortcutI don’t know why people get so riled up over BA’s lists. By now they should realize that they heavily favor 1st rounders and are more accurate as reflections of CURRENT performance than predictions of future performance. For example Pablo Sandoval wasn’t even in his teams top 30 in the 08 BA Prospect Handbook and now he’s one of the best young MLB hitters
Posted by JM | July 10, 2009 at 9:10 am | ShortcutWhat kind of a season Eric Young Jr. should have to even be considered in the top 50? This guy is doing almost everything this year and is not that old to play in AAA! So why isn’t he there?
Posted by Sylvain Noiseux | July 10, 2009 at 9:40 am | ShortcutOther than age, it’s hard to fathom how Dom Brown, on the DL in high Class A for two months (Sistine Chapel ceiling, True Value tools, one assumes), is rated 6 spots ahead of EL Triple Crown contender (6-6, 250, 17 steals in 21 attempts, arm compared to Ellis Valentine) Michael Taylor. Is there something you guys don’t understand about the wall-to-wall numbers this athlete has put up at three levels the past season and a half? Or are you still being influenced by Taylor’s disappointing Stanford career?
Posted by Bill | July 10, 2009 at 10:12 am | ShortcutDavid dlf~
Makes sense…Vitters should still be the Cubs’ #1 prospect heading into 2010, anyway…
Posted by MJ | July 10, 2009 at 10:36 am | ShortcutJM, I think us not having ranked Sandoval for two years reflects that the Giants didn’t like him, and that we didn’t do enough those two years to go outside the org for sources. The two previous years, he ranked 27th and 15th; I did those lists and recall scouts or managers outside the system liked Sandoval better than the Giants did.
Posted by John Manuel | July 10, 2009 at 10:59 am | ShortcutAs a Cubs fan, I think the Vitters ranking is quite fair, particularly since John indicated he’s closer to 26 than 50. He’s improved, but I can’t make a case for him as a top 25 prospect until we know what he does at Daytona. He can get away with some things in the lower levels. Can he adjust? That said, he’s been quite impressive, but it was a hot streak followed by a cold streak.
As to the above Casey Coleman comment, my personal opinion is that I highly doubt Casey will be anywhere near a top 100. I’m a fan, and I think he was underrated and underhyped. Like Jay Jackson, he was aggressively pushed to AA and he’s done well. That said, unlike Jackson, Casey doesn’t really possess that plus arsenal. He throws a good sinker and a decent curve/change. I like the honesty the kid has about his abilities – he knows the sinker is his bread and butter, and he plays to it. He even acknowledges that he’s a mid-end of the rotation type arm. If the cutter/slider he’s been working on develops, that could be a big help to him.
Posted by Tony | July 10, 2009 at 11:14 am | ShortcutVery good list B.A. I have a question about why Michael Taylor is so low. This guy is claerly one of the best hitters in he minors now and he is way better than Alonso, Castro, and Beckham. He should be in the top 15 with ease. I know your list is based on ceiling, but Taylor is legit.
Posted by John | July 10, 2009 at 11:52 am | Shortcutwill there be a chat today?
Posted by Scott | July 10, 2009 at 11:53 am | ShortcutBill, When you say “other than age” you’re glossing over a two-year age difference between Brown and Taylor. Both of them made the Top 25, but Brown rates higher because he’s producing one level behind in one of the toughest hitters leagues in baseball despite being two years younger, plus he’s a better athlete with better speed, a better arm and an equal hit tool. What are we not understanding? Taylor’s ranked as the 23rd best prospect in baseball, that’s a sign we respect him, not that we don’t like him.
Posted by J.J. Cooper | July 10, 2009 at 12:28 pm | ShortcutAs a Royals’ fan I appreciate Moustakas and Hosmer still making the top 50, but have they really earned that by their play thus far this season? Is their potential just too high to not include them?
Posted by D.Cutler | July 10, 2009 at 3:31 pm | ShortcutThis is coming from a White Sox fan, but where the hell is Andrew Cashner? His combined stats from High-A and AA: ERA – 1.39; WHIP – 1.06; 1 HR given up in 14 starts…and he’s doing all this while making a transition from a reliever to a starter.
Posted by Steve | July 10, 2009 at 3:52 pm | ShortcutTo: BA Staff… Just want to point out that you guys keep responding to multiple comments made by the same few individuals (seems like you are mostly responding to those who criticize you the most). A couple of us have kindly asked about Wilmer Flores’ current status and his omission from the Top 50. Any clarification/info would be appreciated. P.S. Thanks for the good work on this list.
Posted by Jason | July 10, 2009 at 6:06 pm | ShortcutWhere is Scott Sizemore or Alex Avila? Are they close? In the conversation?
Posted by Nick | July 10, 2009 at 7:20 pm | ShortcutGreat list, though I was surprised that Villalona didn’t even make the top 50. I thought you guys were pretty high on him. What was the group discussion about him? If he finishes the season strong, where does he rank in the Top 100 in the offseason?
Posted by Ali T | July 10, 2009 at 7:46 pm | Shortcuti guess u guys are sitting on an upcoming wilmer flores article. i think he’s the mets #1 prospect.
Posted by eric | July 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm | ShortcutI can’t believe I am actually agitated to the point of losing respect for a player based on belligerent comments from fans. I’m going to have nightmares of Michael Taylor becoming Ricky Jordan tonight.
Posted by Joe LeCates | July 10, 2009 at 11:31 pm | ShortcutHow about a list of guys who are DROPPING? Where would Carlos Carrasco fit in? Is he still considered an elite prospect?
Posted by Robert Hall | July 13, 2009 at 3:54 am | ShortcutJason, belatedly, I’ll respond on Flores. He was so impressive last season in a short burst at a young edge. This year, he’s adjusting to the longer season, the grind, and we’ve had scouting reports that he’s playing with less energy than you’d like to see. He’s 17; no way you want to bury a guy like that, at that age, with that offensive upside. But you do try to temper enthusiasm when a guy is having a statistically modest or just solid year, rather than an explosive one. That’s how I view Flores. Thnaks for your patience.
Posted by John Manuel | July 13, 2009 at 11:48 pm | ShortcutJohn, I appreciate your response regarding Flores. I guess the only difference is that I think Flores is actually having a very good year, when his performance is evaluated within its context (a 17-year-old playing against much older competition in the SAL).
Posted by Jason | July 14, 2009 at 2:28 pm | ShortcutDid Josh Reddick recieve any consideration for the back end of the top 50? He’s showing good power this year (especially outside of June when he was just coming back from his injury) and his patience appears to be greatly improved from last year. I’ve also heard at fairly encouraging things about his fielding in CF. Just wondering what you’re thoughts are. Thanks.
Posted by Greg | July 15, 2009 at 1:32 pm | ShortcutI have a very difficult time believing Tim Beckham being ahead of Wilmer Flores (and what gives? No Flores at all?)… who is that kidding? Flores > Beckham.
Posted by NM | July 24, 2009 at 10:26 am | Shortcutno white sox prospects? how bout tyler flowers, viciedo, carlos torres?
Posted by Aaron | July 24, 2009 at 4:21 pm | Shortcutacording to this list the yankees system is better that boston the yanks have the #3 prospect and a 26-50 one and boston has 2 26-50 PROSPECTS not major leagers now that were minor leagers a year ago like bukholtzs (misspelled) beside Lars anderson and Clay Buckholtz what prospects does boston have.
and shut up about the yankees buying a team right know that yankees have 10 imported players
boston has 14 imported players so if any team is buying a team its boston
Posted by shane | July 24, 2009 at 4:48 pm | ShortcutAdrian Cardenas? His power will develop, and he will steal 15 bags a year in the bigs. Dude can play. Is Arrieta really that far behind Tillman and Matusz? I still take Arrieta over both. And take Hellickson over all 3 of them.
Posted by Brandon | July 25, 2009 at 4:44 pm | ShortcutAlso wondering, where does Dee Gordon fit in?
Posted by Brandon | July 25, 2009 at 4:58 pm | ShortcutI respect that you guys dropped Alvarez from the top 25. Lesser publications would have wedged him into the top 15 to justify his pre-season ranking.
Posted by CH | July 29, 2009 at 3:00 pm | Shortcutwheel,
if bucholz WERE eligible, he wouldnt be number one. that would go to tommy hanson…
Posted by johnsss | August 4, 2009 at 8:45 am | Shortcutwhy is alcides escobar on this list but not ruben tejada?
Posted by NM | August 5, 2009 at 9:54 am | ShortcutExcellent list.
Posted by Ron Baynton | August 13, 2009 at 5:06 am | ShortcutMy only changes would be to move Stanton to number 1, and Posey to number 2.