League Top 20 Prospects

South Atlantic League Top 20 Prospects Chat




Moderator: Matt Meyers will answer questions about the South Atlantic League's top prospects at 2 p.m. ET.

 Q:  Mike Marinaro from Tampa, FL asks:
Where did Angel Salome rank?
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Matt Meyers: Welcome to the SAL top 20 prospects chat. I just did some long toss so I am warmed up and ready to go. Bill Simmons' marathon chat from the other day is in my sights.

Matt Meyers: Salome is a personal favorite of mine since we both come from the same neighborhood in NYC so he seems like a good place to start. He probably fits into the 26-30 range because despite his solid numbers, he has a major hole in his swing. He steps in the bucket and can be pitched away. This weakness will be exploited at the higher levels by pitchers with better command. He has some crazy strength due to forearms the size of Popeye's and can hit the ball as hard as anyone. Defensively, he has impressive arm strength, but needs better accuracy.

 Q:  Adam from NYC asks:
How much of a concern is Brandon Erbe's violent delivery? How will effect his long term projection and maturation? Are there any other areas of concern that scouts saw with him?
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Matt Meyers: I was talking to one manager that told me that when his pitcher came back from the mound, the pitcher said that Erbe's front foot was landing about a foot closer to home plate than his. Because he finishes so close to the plate and he has such good velocity, the ball gets on you quickly. The concern is that he uses too much effort in every pitch. If he can't figure out how to be more efficient with his delivery, he will probably be a reliever. However, he is not yet 19 and has plenty of time to figure things out. Like most pitchers his age he needs to develop his changeup but that is less of a concern at this point. His arm strength is rare and he is certainly an excellent prospect.

 Q:  Todd from Houston asks:
Where would Justin Towles be ranked? Was he even on the radar?
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Matt Meyers: Towles was one of the last two guys cut from the 20. Despite an impressive performance, his play did not excite observers but he is still a good prospect because he is a true catcher with solid defensive skills. At 22, he was a little on the old side for the leauge but was still the SAL's best catching prospect.

 Q:  Art Schlichter from Las Vegas asks:
Is Fowler 10 because of a particular limitation, or do each of the top 9 have a higher ceiling?
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Matt Meyers: It is not a specific weakness, but he is rawer then the other position prospects. As far as ceiling goes, he rivals anyone in the league. Not sure if he is ever going to hit a lot of home runs, but with his speed he should hit a lot of doubles and triples. He needs to shorten his swing, but I like that his performance as both a lefty and righty were almost equal. He gets caught stealing way too much, but he is still learning technique and that will improve with time.

Matt Meyers: Art, isn't Vegas a little dangerous for you?

 Q:  pete from nyc asks:
Hi Matt - thanks for the chat. In regards to the Mets' Jon Niese, how come he didn't make the list and what is his projection?
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Matt Meyers: Niese wasn't that close to making the list, but he is still an intriguing prospect. The SAL is the largest league in the minors with 16 teams, so cracking the 20 is extremely difficult. Niese simply needs more consistency. When his curve is on, it can look like Zito's but too often it lacks tightness and he casts it. He rarely ever had all three pitches working on the same night and the one time that he did, he threw a complete game three-hitter. It was only one inning, but one scout said he was the most impressive pitcher at the SAL all-star game.

 Q:  Robert Goldberg from Lyndhurst, NJ asks:
I realize that this league is loaded with talent, but where was Maximiliano Ramirez? Did he fall in that 21-30 range?
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Matt Meyers: Yeah, he was in the 21-30 range and probably the second best catching prospect in the league. The problem is that there are major questions about his defense and it does not sound like he can stick at catcher. If he is not a catcher, then his prospect value obviously takes a huge hit.

 Q:  Jaypers from IL asks:
How close was it between Tabata, F-Mart and Andrus? What ultimately put Tabata over the top?
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Matt Meyers: Similar to Jim Callis' rationale for having Jay Bruce No. 1 in the MWL, Tabata got the nod for his bat. Martinez and Andrus offer more speed and defense, but Tabata will be fine in right field and at this point he looks more likely to be an impact bat. It would not surprise me if Martinez or Andrus turn out to be a better player though. They are studs too.

 Q:  Jake from Bartlett, IL asks:
Matt, thanks for the chat! How accurate are the comparisons of Andrew McCutchen to Marquis Grisson in his prime? What is McCutchen's ceiling, and do you think he will ever produce 30 homers in a season? Finally, at this point, who would you rather have long-term, Andrew McCutchen or Jeremy Hermida?
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Matt Meyers: That comparison isn't bad, but I often think we get in the bad habit of limiting our comparisons based on race. I find that too often Latin players are only compared to other Latin players and black players to other black players. That being said, I don't really like to make comps of my own but at this point I would like to think McCutchen will turn out to be a better player then Grissom. Despite his speed, Grissom was never a great on-base threat. I think McCutchen will be, and should hit for more power.

Matt Meyers: As much as I like McCutchen, I would still take Hermida at this point despite his disappointing rookie year. If McCutchen develops similarly to Hermida, you would have to be thrilled as a Pirates fan. I'll give Hermida another year in the big leagues before I sour on him.

 Q:  Jaypers from IL asks:
Let's play a game, called Hide the Salome. So, where exactly did he get stashed, and why?
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Matt Meyers: Sorry, I had to post this question. It is the funniest I have received thus far and certainly tickles my juvenile funny bone. Yes, I have an eighth graders sense of humor. Lots of Salome questions, but I addressed him earlier so scroll on up.

 Q:  Jaypers from IL asks:
Possible late 2007 ETA for Drennen if he keeps up the pace with his bat, or no?
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Matt Meyers: Settle down, Beavis. He is a polished bat, but a 2007 promotion for Drennen would be startling despite his home run off of Roger Clemens. No need to rush him and a late 2008 seems more likely if he continues at his current pace.

Matt Meyers: Side note, John Drennen might want to change his name to, "John Drennen, who homered off of Roger Clemens when Clemens made a rehab start in low Class A in 2006" because that is how he will be referred to for the next few years.

 Q:  Wilbur Miller from Silver Spring, MD asks:
I was surprised Brent Lillibridge didn't make the list. Was there concern about a lack of a high ceiling?
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Matt Meyers: You nailed it. I had him on my preliminary list but he got bumped in favor of some players who I thought had higher ceilings. Lillibridge has decent tools across the board and the bat is his best one. People see him more as a utility guy, but he might hit enough to be a solid regular.

 Q:  Jon from Toronto asks:
No Austin Jackson? I know his strikeout totals were vicious, but I thought he was a potential 5-tooler. Has his stock tumbled so far in one season?
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Matt Meyers: Jackson is certainly an impressive athlete, but his approach at the plate needs serious work. As you mentioned, he struck out 151 times. He was just too raw to be ranked in a 16-team league. Most people like his athleticism but I spoke to one scout who said that he wrote him up as a non prospect. I think it is way too early to give up on him, but he needs work. Between Jackson and Tim Battle, the Charleston club had a couple of guys that would make Rob Deer blush.

 Q:  Chris from Detroit, MI asks:
I know the difference betweena #2 and #3 spot on these lists is usually very small, but I'm curious as to how you decided to rank Tabata over Martinez. It seems to me that they are similar in many ways but Martinez might be more valuable in the long run because he can handle centerfield.
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Matt Meyers: Martinez' defensive value could certainly give him the nod down the road, but people liked Tabata's bat better. I realize Martinez rate stats were better, but he also did it 192 at-bats while Tabata had 319. Martinez never really had a chance to have any weaknesses exposed and scouts and coaches agreed that Tabata has a more advanced approach. As I said earlier, it would not be at all surprising if Martinez turns out better. It is certainly an interesting debate.

 Q:  Browning Nagle from Louisville, KY asks:
What numbers do you project for Andrus in his best years? What is his ETA in Atlanta, 2009?
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Matt Meyers: Browning, thanks for checking in! What are you up to these days? It is still too early to tell what kind of numbers to project for Andrus, but I think a typical line of .300-.370-.450 is realistic. If he continues on his current pace, 2009 sounds about right, he needs to add some muscle so he can't be overpowered by plus velocity.

 Q:  Henry from Berkeley asks:
Kala Ka'aihue—prospect or suspect?
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Matt Meyers: He is a prospect. But like most first baseman at the lower levels, you have to be a little skeptical. First base is a last resort for players who can't play another position and he is already there in A ball. However, it does sound like he has the raw power for first base and might have had the best raw power in the SAL. His average dropped by 100 points when he was promoted to high Class A, but the power stayed so that is promising.

 Q:  Scott from Springfield, Illinois asks:
I can see why the Kannapolis Intimidators had such a poor season, did any of their prospects even come close to the Top 20 or even Top 30?
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Matt Meyers: Aaron Cunningham was far and away the best prospect on the team and fits in the 21-30 range. He gets the barrel of the bat through the zone well and can use the whole field. His fringy arm will likely limit him to left field, but his range is above-average there.

 Q:  The guy whose questions never get taken... from The ATL asks:
How close far was Chris Nelson from being in the top 20, and how does his future project with Tulowitzki being called up, Ian Stewart at third, and Eric Young Jr. doing well at second? He's obviously athletic enough for a move to the grass, but then he's competing with Fowler. Any thoughts?
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Matt Meyers: Better change that name now! He was not that close to making the list and has been a bit of a mystery since his impressive debut in the Pioneer League in 2004. He is too much of a free swinger and needs to tighen up his approach. It was his second time in the league, yet continued to chase breaking balls out of the zone, and these are SAL breaking balls. He obviously has some ability though, and it is too early to give up on him. It sounds like his range is a little limited for short and I would not be surprised to see him moved to second base at some point. However, if Young keeps playing like this it will be hard for Nelson to take time from him. My guess is that they will both go to high Class A together and be the DP combo.

 Q:  Jeff from Pittsfield Mass asks:
Do you think Jeff Natale had a good chance to make the top 20 had he at stayed longer at Greenville prior to being promoted?
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Matt Meyers: Gotta take a question about a fellow NESCAC alum. Natale is small and he is already a second baseman so he is not that exciting from a tools standpoint. Not to mention the fact that he just turned 24-years-old. However, he has performed every step of the way and I will not count out guys who always perform until they stop performing. If this list were base purely on performance, he would be in the top 20. Natale should get a shot at Double-A next year, and that will be a huge test for him.

 Q:  wily mo from los angeles asks:
what puts carrasco #1 among the pitchers? also, i don't want to tell you guys how to do your job, but given a choice between pitchers named inman and outman, i'd be tempted to take the outman. i know, everybody makes that joke. but seriously, he's named outman. do names mean nothing? why not just put grant balfour #1.
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Matt Meyers: From the people who brought you, "Hide the Salome" comes this question. When I first saw the name Josh Outman, all I could think of was Bookman, the library guy from Seinfeld. As Kramer said, "That's like an ice cream man being named Cone."

Matt Meyers: Carrasco earned the top spot because he was the best blend of present performance and stuff with future projection. He is still young and has a body type that should allow him to add velocity. His feel for his secondary stuff really improved this year and put him ahead of the other pitching prospects for me.

 Q:  Joshua from Tallahassee, Fl asks:
How good of a prospect is Darren Ford? Is he really the fastest player in the minors? Thanks!
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Matt Meyers: I am not sure if he is the fastest, but he is in the discussion. Watching him play the outfield is a lot of fun because he can track fly balls with the best of them. For someone with his speed, he is too focused on home runs and needs to shorten the swing to make more contact and make use of his legs. Guys with his speed should not be striking out 133 times.

 Q:  Brian from Sturbridge, ma asks:
I've read that the Red Sox brought Michael Bowden to Dr. James Andrews and had his delivery analyzed to find out if his unorthodox style would be detrimental to his development last offseason. They found that his delivery caused no excessive stress and should be no problem, at least health wise going forward. Given his performance and his command of two very good pitches, why is Bowden ranked so low? Is it based just on his unorthodox delivery?
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Matt Meyers: I wouldn't classify ranking him No. 15 in a 16-team league "so low." I didn't talk to James Andrews, and maybe his delivery will not prove to be a problem but the people I spoke to have some concerns. Even if his mechanics were fine, his stuff is not so amazing that it would easily put him over any of the guys ahead of him either. So coupled with questions about his mechanics and the fact that it is not as if he set the league on fire (3.51 ERA), I feel comfortable with the ranking.

 Q:  Julian de Lavalle from Washington DC asks:
Where would have Brad Lincoln rank had he pitched enough?
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Matt Meyers: It's hard to say because he pitched so little and he wasn't that effective when he pitched. However, because of his pedigree he probably would have cracked the top 10 if he had shown the stuff he had at Houston.

 Q:  Ryan from Niceville Florida asks:
Is Eduardo Nunez still a frontline prospect?
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Matt Meyers: 2006 his was clearly a big step back for him, but he has some time. It is clear he was not ready for the FSL and the SAL caused him problems as well. It is certainly a surprise after how well he performed in the NYPL in 2005. My guess is he will be back in the SAL next year and won't turn 20 until June.

 Q:  Dave from Chicago asks:
Isn't it a little early to think that maybe Michael Bowden might be suited for the bullpen? He has time to develop a 3rd pitch and the Red Sox have dismissed his mechanics as a future issue (before drafting him).
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Matt Meyers: I agree, let him start until he proves he can't. As for him and the bullpen, all I said was that the lack of a changeup combined with his mechanics could mean he ends up in the bullpen. To say that the Red Sox have dismissed his mechanics as a future issue is ludicrous. Obviously, they felt the mechanics were not a big enough issue for them to not draft him, but there is no way to know how it will play out down the road. As we all remember, Mark Prior was supposed to have the cleanest mechanics you'd ever see, and he has had nothing but arm problems the last couple of years.

 Q:  Wade from Tucson asks:
Dodger pitcher Jon Meloan put up dominating numbers at Columbus before his promotion. Did he not pitch enough innings to be considered? If so, where would he have ranked?
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Matt Meyers: Meloan did not quite qualify, but might have fit into the back end of the top 20 if he did. He got some support for best fastball in our Best Tools survey, and he was reportedly up to 97 mph in the FSL. He even finished the season in Double-A and will probably crack the big leagues next year as another power arm for the Dodgers bullpen.

 Q:  Adam from NYC asks:
What type of future projection do you see for Lorenzo Cain? Is more of a Reggie Abercrombie type? Or a Curtis Granderson type? Shed some light please.
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Matt Meyers: Cain has far more refinement at the plate then Abercrombie ever had. Cain has really developed quickly as a hitter, the question is if he has enough power to profile well in a corner. Some think he might be better off in center.

 Q:  Shawn from Bellingham WA asks:
Hi. I love these chats! Keep up the awesome work. Do you think Chris Volstad can make a Philip Hughes mark on high A and Double A next year and become the elite prospect Hughes is presently? Thanks!!
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Matt Meyers: I don't think Volstad has the swing and miss kind of stuff that Hughes has, so I don't think he will be able to dominate like Hughes. However, he keeps the ball down and commands three pitches. I think he will move fast and be a good No. 2 or No. 3 starter. Of all the players in the league, I think he is most likely to reach his ceiling.

 Q:  Keen from San Francisco asks:
As a Giants fan it was a bummer that none of our guys made the list, and a bit surprising given the level of success Augusta had this year. where there any Augusta players who just missed being included in the top 20 and if so what do you like about them? Thanks!
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Matt Meyers: Augusta had a great season, but most of the guys were a little old for the league. For example, Eugenio Velez was MVP of the league, but he is already 24-year-old and playing second base. Similar to him was righthander Joseph Martinez who had an excellent year, but is already 23. Antoan Richardson has great speed, but he is about to turn 23 and his hitting approach did not impress anyone. Those guys will need to do it at a higher level to be considered good prospects.

 Q:  Nick Papageorgio from Yuma, AZ asks:
What major leaguer is Eric Campbell comparable to? will his power translate to upper levels? and what is his ETA?
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Matt Meyers: Campbell was one of the more divisive players in the league. Some people say he has a great approach, others say he flies open in an attempt to pull everything. Some said he was a gamer, while others questioned his attitude. He does have good power and plays third base well, which is a good combination. He is a very aggressive hitter and that works for him, but it sounds like he could benefit from being a little more patient as he advances.

 Q:  Gillick's Pal from Allentown, PA asks:
Thanks for doing the chat. It is great to see 3 pitchers from Lakewood make the list, but my question is about the position players. Were C.J. Henry and Lou Marson anywhere close to consideration for this list.
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Matt Meyers: Henry did not impress anyone when he was with Charleston or Lakewood. He has a bad approach at the plate and is not smooth at shortstop. One scout he should be in left field already. Marson got a little support because he is good defensively behind the plate. The bat needs work though.

 Q:  Jared from LA asks:
Any Dodgers come close to making the Top 20?
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Moderator: Lightning round time...

Matt Meyers: Ivan Dejesus Jr. was close because of his impressive glove and feel for the game. Not surprising for the son of a big leaguer.

 Q:  Paul from Kansas City, MO asks:
For John Drennan to come in at number 12 speaks to how much top level talent there was in that league, no?
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Matt Meyers: Yes and no. Drennen is an impressive bat, but if he can't stick in center (and there are doubts that he can) then he is a leftfielder without a lot of power. That has value, but his bat does not profile nearly as well there. He might turn out to be a 20-25 homer guy, but I am not convinced yet from what I have heard.

 Q:  Fonz41 from Milwaukee asks:
Thanks for taking the time to do the chat. Thoughts on Mat Gamel? Will he be able to sustain decent power (HR, not doubles) going forward to play what is increasingly becoming a good power position at the MLB level?
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Matt Meyers: I like Gamel and he was the last guy cut. Not overly athletic and he does not make it look easy, but he has gotten it done thus far. Some people preferred him to Campbell at third base because he is a lefty bat who might have more power.

 Q:  Mike from Boston asks:
I expected to see Buchholz and Bowden a little higher on the list (though I still like the list). What kept them from being higher?
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Matt Meyers: Bowden I addressed earlier so scroll up. Buchholz because he is a little older then the other guys. That being said, there is a lot to like there and I expect him to move fast. There was little separating a lot of the pitchers on this list.

 Q:  Mr. Rebe from Jerusalem asks:
Who besides Tabata intrigues you the most on the charleston squad?
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Matt Meyers: Despite mediocre numbers, people still love Marcos Vechionacci. He is a stud on defense at third, and he can center balls up from both sides of the plate. A lot to like there, but you'd like to see the performance to start matching the tools at some point.

 Q:  Ryan from NYC asks:
How does McCutchen compare with Lastings Milledge?
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Matt Meyers: People make that comp, but I don't really see it beyond their position and the color of their skin to be honest. Everything Milledge does is loud. He has a big bat waggle at the plate and he is flashy in the field. McCutchen does everything quietly. He has no bat waggle and hardly any leg kick. He glides in the outfield and tracks balls with ease. If Milledge is AND1 baseball, McCutchen is John Stockton. Don't get me wrong, they are both talented players who should be impact big leaguers, I just don't see their games as being similar.

Matt Meyers: Alright, time for me to heard out. Thanks for the great questions. I had a blast and it is great to see such enthusiasm for the South Atlantic League. In the words of Spinal Tap on The Simpsons, "good night Springton, there will be no encore."