Pirates Move Stetson Allie To Third Base



Stetson Allie, the Pirates' second-round pick in 2010, is being converted to a position player, former Baseball America correspondent Dejan Kovacevic reported in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review today.

The move is a stunning one, as Allie was one of the most significant signings of the 2010 draft–his $2.2 million signing bonus was the ninth-highest in that draft. Now after just 27 pro innings, Allie is becoming a hitter. He was a legitimate two-way prospect coming out of high school, but he was a significantly better prospect as a pitcher. He was considered a top 100 prospect as a hitter; a first-round talent as a pitcher.

Our 2010 pre-draft scouting report said:

He had expressed a desire to hit, and he does have some of the best raw power in the draft. He famously hit a broken-bat homer at the East Coast Professional Showcase last summer, though his swing has gotten long this spring. With his size, power and arm strength, he could be an early-round pick as a third baseman, but he now accepts that his future is on the mound.

The Pirates were as aggressive as anyone in using above-slot bonuses to bring in draft talent under the previous rules, but they have not seen many dividends yet. Here's a look at Pirates picks after the first round who received significantly above-slot bonuses from 2008-2010 (we left out 2011 because they have played so little).

Player Draft Year Round Bonus Pirates
Top 30 Ranking
Robbie Grossman, of 2008 6 $1,000,000 8
Breakout year in 2011 repeating high Class A Bradenton. Has struggled in 2012 in jump to Double-A
Quinton Miller, rhp 2008 20 $900,000 NR
Moved to pen as he repeats high Class A Bradenton, 5.25 K/9 for his career
Zack Dodson, lhp 2009 4 $600,000 23
Has gone 1-4, 5.36 while repeating level low Class A West Virginia
Zack Von Rosenberg, rhp 2009 6 $1,200,000 21
Fastball struggles to top 90. Held back in extended spring this year after going 5-9, 5.73 at West Virginia last year
Trent Stevenson, rhp 2009 7 $350,000 NR
2-10, 5.94 for his career, retired at the end of April
Colton Cain, lhp 2009 8 $1,125,000 13
Struggling this year at high Class A Bradenton (1-3, 5.18), had solid '11 except for lack of Ks (6.8 K/9)
Jeff Inman, rhp 2009 12 $425,000 NR
Plagued by injuries; in four pro seasons has thrown 58 total innings
Stetson Allie 2010 2 $2,250,000 9
After 37 BB in 27 pro IP, being converted to being a position player
Nick Kingham, rhp 2010 4 $485,000 14
On track, making full-season debut at West Virginia this year. Proving hittable this year, but also striking out a batter an inning
Drew Maggi, ss 2010 15 $468,000 NR
Hitting .248/.323/.373 for high Class A Bradenton
Ryan Hafner, rhp 2010 17 $450,000 NR
Walking 7.5 per 9 IP, striking out 4/9 IP at West Virginia to go with 0-4, 6.96 record
Jared Lakind, 1b 2010 23 $400,000 NR
Has hit .158/.264/.311 in two seasons with GCL Pirates, currently in extended spring training


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I actually just read an article published on Cleveland.com on May 9th about Stetson Allie's dad Danny retiring from being the head coach at St. Edwards High School's baseball team. They then mention that Stetson was down at extended Spring Training at the time getting time at 3rd. In additon, his dad just said on the Pittsburgh Sports Radio station literally 15 minutes ago that the Pirates were letting him hit more that usual during Minor League camp this spring. So obviously Huntington and Co. were thinking about this move a lot earlier than we all expected. He also said that Stetson has already said he's excited to now be a position player because he did not like waiting 5 days to pitch and that he believes "he's wired to play everday and has athletic abilities that you don't want to hold back".
Allie's awful control and his few injuries he's had in his short pro career made his prospect stock drop A LOT by experts even though he's only thrown 27 pro innings. The high number of strikeouts was good, but couple that with so many walks, hit batters, and wild pitches and you can tell why they decided to make the change. He was a thrower and not a "pitcher" and his pitching talents were EXTREMELY raw when he was drafted (even his dad said during the interview that during HS ball and beyond, he knew Stetson was very raw pitching and was going to be a big project).

Grossman also tore up the Arizona Fall League for 100 ABs as one of the league youngest players.  He broke his hamate bone in his last AFL abat.  Kinda relevant info there BA.

Van Rosenberg also had a sick 5/1 K/BB ratio last year (8.2 K/9 and 1.6 BB/9).   Another kinda relevant stat.


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