Day Two CWS Picks Have SEC Flavor



Saturday's Games:

Kent State vs. Arkansas

South Carolina vs. Florida

John Manuel:

Today's games have an undercard and a main event. Arkansas and Kent State probably know they are not the day's sexy matchup, but that doesn't mean it's not a good one. The two clubs set up fairly similarly as pitching-and-defense teams. Kent State's defense is superior to that of Arkansas in terms of the numbers, the consistency and recent history. The Golden Flashes made several key defensive plays to win a super regional at Oregon and will have to continue to defend at a high level to win in Omaha. Their best chance to win here appears to come today against Arkansas' D.J. Baxendale, who has had an erratic junior season and relies more on competitiveness and location than pure stuff. For the most part this season, Baxendale has beaten decent teams and lost to the good ones; I consider Kent State a good team with just a decent offense, and I think Baxendale will rise to the occasion and deliver a big performance for the Razorbacks. I'm picking them, but if you can't tell, I don't have a ton of confidence in the pick.

South Carolina and Florida is the main event of the entire weekend. I happen to think it's the first of three matchups the teams will play here this week. I know this will be an unpopular sentiment with some, but at some point, I think Michael Roth's magic has to run out. He's had an amazing college career by locating pitches, mixing his pitch patterns, varying arm angles and out-thinking hitters. If he pitches as well in this year's Series as he has the last two, he'll go down in history as the most successful pitcher in CWS history. I just don't think he can keep doing it to the Gators, who have veteran hitters who have seen him over and over and who got some good swings off him when I saw the two teams in Columbia in late March. Brian Johnson has been at his best lately, and I like the confidence coach Kevin O'Sullivan is showing in his team to shake things up a bit and not start either Hudson Randall or bazooka-armed Jonathon Crawford in this one.

I admit it's fairly ridiculous to pick against South Carolina at this point. Let's sit back and marvel at their winning ways in the postseason the last three years, and acknowledge that if they do it again here in the 2012 CWS and win a third straight national championship that Ray Tanner is the best college baseball coach of our time. Only Skip Bertman could rival Tanner, but three in a row without a parade of future big leaguers would give Tanner the edge in my book.

Aaron Fitt:

As usual, I think John's analysis is spot-on for both of these games. I do believe Arkansas is the more talented team, and its depth of quality arms will be a significant advantage in the late innings, because I wasn't blown away last week by a Kent State bullpen that coughed up two late leads and nearly blew a three-run ninth-inning lead in the opener against an Oregon team that is not overly offensive. Kent State starter David Starn has won a lot of big games over his sterling four-year career, and the Golden Flashes will need him to pitch deep into this game to have a chance. But I'm not sure he's a great matchup for Arkansas—as a mid-80s, low-slot lefty, his style reminds me quite a bit of Roth's, and Arkansas has handled Roth ably over the last two years, rapping out 10 hits to beat him in 2011 and scoring six runs against him this year. The better way to beat Arkansas is with velocity, and Starn doesn't fit that mold. So I'll suppress my suspicion that the Golden Flashes could make some noise, and I'll follow my head—give me the Hogs.

In the night game, it really is silly to bet against Roth and the Gamecocks in Omaha, but I think John's got it right—if any team can beat him on this stage, it is the Gators, who just have so much familiarity with him. I just feel like Florida's got some unfinished business to address here in Omaha, and it starts tonight. The Gators are the most talented team in this tournament, and they're also the most experienced (South Carolina has its core of key CWS holdovers, but it also relies on significantly more first-year starters than Florida does). So I'm taking the Gators—fully prepared for the Gamecocks to make me look silly again.

John's Picks: Arkansas, Florida.

Aaron's Picks: Arkansas, Florida.

Yesterday:
John: 2-0.
Aaron: 1-1.



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Great analysis from both of you. I'll take the Gamecocks though.

John- About these "good swings" you saw the gators get against Roth in columbia…Where were they? From what i remember, and going by the stat sheet, the gators had 4 hits total against Roth and 1 earned run. All 4 of the hits were singles. I understand everyone is required to pick the gators because they have the most MLB talent, but at least don't throw out some random statement that it's because they had some good swings against Roth(which isn't true) all the way back in March! 

I think it's funny that you both say it's "ridiculous" and "silly" to pick against the gamecocks and then turn around and do it.  
We probably haven't been the most talented team the last two years either but that didn't keep us from winning.  No faith.
GO GAMECOCKS!

Looks like the magic is still in full effect and the business will remain unfinished for Fla. for now.  Don't bet against the GAMECOCKS… that would be silly and ridiculous!  
GO GAMECOCKS!!!  FEAR THE FISH.  Experience and Talent…. Not always enough to get you a championship!

Well Aaron, looks like you look silly. Again.

Okay, Roth and the Gamecocks made you both look silly again. Are you NOW ready choose them as your favorites to win the championship, or do you remain stubborn?

"I think Michael Roth's magic has to run out."
How did that work out for you?

Time and time again people have picked against Roth. Time and time again he has proven them wrong. He has gone up against the best that other teams have to offer, Being a Friday starter in the SEC, he has faces the aces of the other teams. He has listened to reporters talk about how good his counterparts are and that he does not have MLB stuff. Blah blah blah; Roth is a WINNER, a proven winner

You guys just keep picking against the Gamecocks….what gives? Personally I hope you don't stop maybe that is their secret. 

Picking the higher seed is safe and easy, but real insight is harder to come by. Florida looked great on paper, but they don't play the game on paper. Ray Tanner just finds a way to win in Omaha.

You guys are such gracious winners—it’s awesome.

Come on guys.  You do realize that virtually everyone (literally EVERYONE that I know) has a huge amount of respect and regard for your 2 time defending champion Gamecocks.  It's hard not to like Tanner and that team.  I know you guys are fired up about your club, but, how about spending your energy rooting for them instead of lashing out at people.  

Aaron, not ungracious, just tired getting no respect from media wags and prognosticators. Maybe if we three-peat you guys will come around.

lol Aaron, please don't let that small percentile of Gamecock fans to make you think any less of our fan base. The win was nice, especially over the team that we played in the fashion that it happened, but there is still a lot of baseball to be played. I enjoy hearing your insight on the halftime show, and even the best of us have to be wrong sometimes =).

Please guy's, do us Gamecock fans a favor and keep looking silly! Pick any team you would like but just don't pick my Gamecocks. Oh, let me also make a prediction for Baseball Americas 2013 preseason ranking for South Carolina – #15, UNC #1… LOL

Aaron:
Keep picking against South Carolina.  One day you may be right — but more importantly, it seems to be a talisman.  When you pick against them — they WIN.  So remember:  Arkansas is hot, their ace is on the mound and he is unstoppable in Omaha.  Your mantra:  "it is silly to pick against the Gamecocks, but I've got to do it again". 

I think most of my fellow Gamecocks and I have a complex where we take our slights a little more personally as this baseball team is the true epitome of a team despite Florida's overwhelming talent and while I hesitate to speak for them, I think deep in our hearts we were all a little worried the magic would end Saturday night.  I'm sure glad it didn't.

Well, you have to admit that USC is not a flashy, arrogant team, and they do win with class….They are just playing the game the way that non-professionals should do it…by having fun!!  And the 22 game NCAA winning streak has been FUN!!!

I have to remind you guys: it really doesn’t matter if we pick against South Carolina or not. We’ve picked in favor of the Gamecocks plenty of times during this 22-game stretch (John and I both picked them to win their regional and super regional this year, for instance), and they keep on winning whether we pick for them or against them. They’re just a machine.

As a Gamecock fan, I will have to admit that Florida and, maybe Florida State, deserved to be seeded higher than the Gamecocks if you try to analyze the teams based on regular season record, pre-CWS, and star quality.  I believe, at the same time, the writers acknowledged the intangibles that the Gamecocks have.  But before the first games were played who KNEW those intangibles would enable the Gamecocks to pull it off in their game against the #1 seed, and with five starters new to the lineup?  I suspect that our beating Florida in a quality fashion has opened the eyes of many who are now believers.  Who will pick against the Gamecocks now?  Not Sports Illustrated.  Not the Omaha World-Herald.


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